[After every Golden Touch Craps class we ask students for their feedback. Here are just some of the comments from them. Except where indicated, we have used the student’s real name and hometown.]
Sprinkle a pinch of Frank trust the shot, do not give the dice more energy than they need and dash of Dom, become an advantage player
Stir in a bit of Missouri Rick, Skinny and Randman.
Then: PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.
You will have the best opportunity for this recipe to become a success!
I just wanted to take a minute to thank all of the instructors and fellow students that took the GTC class in Vegas last month.
I cant say enough about the value of the education and hands on instruction from each and instructor.
Golden Buckeye (formerly Mr. Buckeye) and I went out to the casinos late afternoon on Sunday. It was the first time since taking up controlled shooting that we walked away with money, enough to pay for one of our class fees.
Golden Buckeye rolled first, and came away with a 27, making 7 points, the 6 & 8 twice each. I followed immediately with a 25, my first 8 rolls were 6, 6, 8, 8,8,8 (hard), 6 (hard) 8. I thought I was dreaming, but I then realized that I felt dream-like because I was able to shut out all the other distractions and focus on my throw. This was the real deal. The rest of the weekend when equally well, we didnt have any rolls that were not in the twenties.
We are really looking forward to continuing this path, and are looking forward to the refresher class next year.
Thank you all again for everything, it was a true pleasure to meet such a fine group of people.
Took my first class in AC last March. I was H-U-N-G-R-Y!!
I've followed all of the GTC guidance while developing my own style. Most of all I've been practicing diligently. Along the way I've gotten some excellent advice from these boards and personally from a few veterans like Billy The Kid and Packrat.
I'm happy to say that the tide has begun to turn. After I hit my initial goal of SRR 1/7, I stopped recording my practice rolls and focused on integrating a complete practice game with betting and modified sets based upon the behavior of my dice. This really helped me get smooth with adjusting my shot in real time, placing my bets and keeping track of my payouts.
I've also been working a lot on my mental game and choosing good table conditions. I don't get rattled as easily by players or crews, and I'm now able to stay focused in adverse situations by using breathing techniques and meditation.
It's all starting to come together now, my winning sessions are outnumbering my loosing sessions, and I had a 40+ roll last night at Tr&ump M@arina for the first time, cashing out up over 60%!
Wow what a feeling!!! I'm very grateful for all of the knowledge, instruction and patience shown to me by the GTC gang, this is truly turning into an adventure. I'm building my 401g and the stress of winning / loosing is nearly absent since I can treat my bankroll like it is monopoly money.
When my dice look good, I can now stay focused and stay in the zone. When my dice look bad, I can take breaks, move on to a different table/casino, make some adjustments and try again. That late drive home when I've cashed out in the positive is truly a nice feeling.
I've settled on a betting strategy that is working really well. When I bet on myself or another controlled shooter, I use a combination of place bets on the 6/8 and come bets with double odds to get up on four numbers. After 6 hits I'm in the black and I start to press. I keep telling myself "I'm going ALL the way up this time!!". I'm finally seeing rolls when I'm pressing up to max odds, then spreading out to all the numbers, something I could only dream of in my pre-GTC days.
When I'm betting on random rollers, I use the 5-count, place the 6 & 8 for the table minimums, and start pressing after 4 hits. I'm avoiding a ton of horrendous rolls and watch lots of players go bust while I endure.
By the end of my 40+ roll last night at the Marina I had all 6 numbers covered in come bets with max odds (5X), with player-controlled $3 dealer bets on the 6/8, and both the crew and I were having a rocking time! I'm looking forward to many more sessions like that, and its nice to see that long hours of practice, sticking to low house edge bets, and tipping guidance I learned from GTC starting to pay off.
I still feel like a beginner, and am amazed at the ability of some of the veterans to alter their shot and sets based upon conditions and the behavior of their dice. It's exciting to know that I have so much more to learn.
Thanks to the whole GTC crew for sharing this knowledge, I feel like I've been given a leg up on becoming an advantage player without having to go through years of "The School of Hard Knocks."
I just read two of your and Frank's books and found them super helpful.
I practice about 20 minutes a day on my tosses and sets at my office and when I went to Tahoe last weekend, I only got to roll twice, but when I did, had a 17 length roll followed by a 16 length roll. I used the hard way set. I also used the 5-count, and basically didn't bet on anyone who rattled the dice around in their hands. Thanks a lot for saving me some money and making craps more enjoyable!
I'm just back from taking the advanced class in Vegas. I want to thank GTC and in particular BillyTheKid and NoFieldFive for an excellent experience.
I arrived a legend in my own mind. Within 30 minutes, the instructors had identified a fatal flaw in my shot and proceeded to break me down and redevelop my "A" shot. It was a humbling experience, but they soon had me up and running with a new and improved shot, and I was able to progress pretty rapidly through the rest of the class, which involved learning how to adjust my "A" shot with trajectory and rotation for different surfaces, including microfiber.
It was a humbling experience, but I want to get better and they want me to be better so I definitely got my money's worth.
After I got home I plugged my Vegas sessions into my spreadsheet model and I'm happy to announce that after 2+ years of learning how to shoot, practice, manage my bankroll, bet, and tip the GTC way, I am officially a winner! My monthly take trend just crossed the zero axis into the positive!
The proof is in the pudding, GTC methods work if you are patient, teachable and willing to practice! Thanks to Frank, Dom, Billy, Daryl and the whole GTC crew for teaching me how to win at the game of craps.
First, my thanks to Pit Boss and Mr. Finesse. Together they did a terrific job of identifying the errors of my toss and reshaping it to a winning form. A much needed boost to a disappointed sagging spirit. The tune-up is a great pick-me-me between attending other seminars on dice control. I feel more confident in attacking the casinos and want to build on this weekends success before taking the Advanced Class.
Secondly, success!! I had a roll of 30! at an off strip casino on Sunday. I made one point number quickly and then had a second point to make. Rolling all other numbers over the major portion of the roll I was unable to repeat my number but with the good betting advice from GTC that was all it took to regain my bank and a small plus. I was actually surprised when I cashed in to have won back my "down" for the trip. Although no accolades from the other players they could not have helped making a nice win on that roll.
This all came about as a result of searching for the right conditions, that is, going to other casinos, playing their tables and learning what the differences are and taking advantage of the conditions when they're right. It was like the "the lights came on", the table was especially conducive to the throw-what you want to see in a table; absolutely no heat or hint of it; inner calm and focus; confident and relaxed when throwing-AKA "the Zone". Now I know what to look for.
Prior to this event I was feeling that I was indeed "going through" the process, having limited success but no real fireworks. Patience and work paid off. This venue -solar coast-I almost didn't go to that day preferring to go to the "color rado rock". Going on the notion of not leaving no stone unturned to satisfy the search of a hospitable environment I am now anxious to return to the solarcoast and the other affiliated shoreline establishments. It was a great find and made all the difference in the world!
So the journey continues by small steps and large. And thanks again to Mr Finesse and PitBoss for the helping hand. And thanks to the GTC organization that makes it all happen.
(p.s.)Was that Meet and Great a hoot or what?!!!! Great Idea.
- GTC student
I had a great two days. I placed a fire bet for fun, rolled 5 distinct points (4,5,6,9,10), and won a 5 point fire bet. The table exploded. It was great. My fianc was doing the counting but she admittedly lost count in the upper 30's, when I made my 4th distinct point (when the table exploded the first time), so I don't have a final count but its somewhere in the 40's. I don't know if this counts for the 40 roll club, but, frankly, its ok. I rolled and won a fire bet.
Please free to call me tomorrow about registering for the Oct class. I'm really looking forward to it now.
I can't thank you enough. I went from never playing craps before, to a class in March 08, to a 5 point fire bet win less than 5 months later. Obviously you and the GTC crew are very good instructors.
I will post a more detailed trip report on the boards tomorrow.
I tend to agree that it was wise for me to take the Refresher after the Premier course. (This was the GTC advice I was given after the Premier Course) After the Refresher, I took the Tune-up next because I felt my shot wasn't ready for the Advance class. I'm glad I did that. The tune-up really focused on my problems. I felt it was necessary to get the base shot down before adding any new techniques etc. Now not only am I more confident about taking the advance class, I also feel Ill be getting the most from it.
I'm glad you guys introduced the Tune-ups. I think they are great! Just enough time to go over each aspect of the throw, focus on the problem areas, and work them out. That knowledge can be taken home and practiced on. I saw a tremendous increase in my abilities after working out those bad habits. Anyway, I just wanted to personally thank you guys for teaching such great classes. My successes can all be attributed to GTC. Ive learned not only how to shoot but to bet and not bet. I can now make money on myself and not lose much on others.
In case you dont hear this much, I just want to thank everyone at GTC for making me a better player. Every affiliated with GTC that I have ever worked with is the best!
See you in Oct.
Another great weekend class. The instructors were just great and they helped me fine tune my shot. Increased my confidence. I love the humor and levity; it added to the class.
Clearly the most productive and absolutely superior class I have taken in the past 10 years. Well done!
Very professional training course. Exceeded all my expectations. I would recommend Golden Touch training to anyone. Best investment I ever made for the greatest return.
I really got a lot out of the Golden Touch dice control class and I would recommend it to anyone interested in advancing their play.
I am a refresher student and this class was a great opportunity to tweak things I developed after the primer class.
The classes are very thorough. Ive learned and been given the tools to learn now on my own. Thank you!
I was very impressed. Like I said, I have found a new sport!
This was an amazing class. Half the instructors are published writers and authors and really know their stuff. I watched each instructor throw the dice, including Frank who was just great when he actually called out his hardways and Dominator too from both sides of the table. I loved Stickmans throw as well. Frank calls it perfect and that is just what it looks like too. You arent going to get this kind of brain power and skill levels anywhere else I can tell you that for a fact having wasted my money on some other dice control Mickey Mouse courses. Golden Touch are the professionals.
The class was great. The instructors were wonderful. I learned a lot.
I waited a long time to decide whether to take this class or not. It was worth every penny. You can see how great the instructors are at teaching and at dice control. I really enjoyed watching them shoot the dice before the actually taught us. You could see what it was you were going to attempt to accomplish. Take this course if you have an interest in learning how to beat the casinos at craps.
Great class. I cant wait to take the next step up to the refresher!
Thank you. Everyone was great and I am more confident and enjoyed the class!